lang3 发表于 2015-2-6 22:15:26

视频:佛山叶系咏春宗师级人物伦佳和梁挺徒孙试手,谁赢了?

梁某人专找自己人踩,趁人家没防备,当年搞张卓庆还不是这样子。
老外认为梁在欧洲教的咏春不被大陆认可,他想证明下。
不过外国人还是打输了才会和对你尊敬。

zhangzhuoa 发表于 2015-2-6 22:16:27

你真聪明。:L

chier 发表于 2015-2-6 22:18:55

这视频实在让人无语。
伦佳前辈都多大岁数了,听说他腿脚也不是很好。这视频明显是以请前辈指点之名拍的,伦老一开始还想指点对方动作的位置,后来老先生也发现不对劲了,不知心里是什么滋味。
对这个视频,俺只能说,其人作为咏春的后辈,人品很差。居然还搞截屏配文字解说的一套,借此提高身价,行为令人不齿。
江湖险恶啊。伦老一生低调,也是防不胜防。

BearHuG 发表于 2015-2-6 22:20:20

视频:

http://www.idvta.de/en/?HOME/Edi ... ith_LUN_KAI_in_1995

georgecl 发表于 2015-2-6 22:21:32

Emin Boztepe(梁廷德国弟子) VS
张卓庆(李小龙师兄)咏春门最轰动的一次内部殴斗
首先来介绍下2位:


这位就是此次事件中遭暗算的咏春拳名师、叶问高足、李小龙师兄、澳大利亚籍华裔武术家张卓庆师傅(SIFU WILLIAM
CHEUNG)。张卓庆是香港新界探长张荣锦的幼子.1955年拜叶问为师.张第二年介绍少年朋友李小龙拜叶问为师,由黄淳梁教拳.张在1959年去澳洲读书,后来在当地设馆教咏春拳已是十多年后的1973年之后了.
张卓庆自称是五枚师太起始的第八位宗师,而且教过李小龙等等,1983年获得美国>杂志的"此年度的功夫技击家"(Kong
fu artist of year)奖项.在香港咏春人仕中引起强烈反响,已发表在香港>杂志1986年第303期的6篇文章中
其中第一篇是咏春体育会主席黄淳梁的公开信,是为1986年9月10日在西德发生的张卓庆与梁挺徒孙同门相煎以下犯上不寻常事件而申明立场,黄指一个捏造事实,而一个则年少气盛.
张卓庆称叶问为师父,梁挺称叶问为问公.梁挺曾是黄淳梁的大师兄梁相之弟子,1976年开拓东西欧,其中德国弟子简基富以德国为基地,在海外发展著称,近年,梁挺自称叶问弟子,叶问大儿子叶准则称当年未闻父亲述及。


此人就是1986年靠偷袭在德国授课的咏春名家张卓庆成名的梁挺徒孙、德国咏春门人亚敏·波斯铁(Emin
Boztepe)。亚敏·波斯铁,德国人,1976年习武。曾先后学过:跆拳道、修斗坎、泰拳、土耳其自由式摔角、梁挺咏春(师从梁挺德国首徒简基富)、菲律宾短棍等。1986年靠偷袭在德国授课的咏春名家张卓庆成名。


上图即为此段影片开始部分咏春张卓庆师傅(中间白衣者)遭到偷袭的瞬间。
   
从影片来看,对手偷袭张卓庆时,在场地中央张卓庆左前侧突然发难,猛烈抱摔张卓庆。旁边有几个观摩的学生(当时张正在给大家上课)。
   
穿白色唐装衬衫、黑色功夫裤的张卓庆在光滑的地板上猝不及仿,被比自己略高、略壮的德国人(穿深蓝色运动衣,侧面带白色粗杠)左右绊摔了两三次,双脚腾空向左侧猛地摔倒。张倒地后曾向右侧滚翻,试图挣脱偷袭者站起来但未能凑效;德国人从张左侧的地面上迅速骑到张卓庆身上,先是以右拳击打张卓庆左下颌,随后对其面部以“连环线冲捶”击打。
   
张倒地后,曾自然地以手护头脸,但防护效果不理想;而且,令人不解的是——张的双腿未曾做任何蹬、踹等踢击动作进行有效反击。
   
打斗现场的四周,并没有太多的人,仅有几个一起上课的学生(也许是偷袭者的同伙)。但未见任何人上前加以阻止或援手;同时也未见四周的这几个人有任何阻止旁人上前的动作。打斗发生后,众人迅速向前围拢跟进了一步(仅此而已,此外没有任何其他动作),大家依然好象在看一堂示范课那样平静。
   
平心而论,这种借上课为名偷袭老师的做法相当不道德,不同于正式的挑战或比武。但从现有短片来看,作为资深咏春拳名家、叶问的高足、李小龙的师兄,张卓庆师傅在这场意外袭击中的反映确实令人费解。也许,确实还有许多其他原因。


以下是梁挺德国首徒简基富(Keith
R. Kernspecht)写的《Never Wrestle a Wrestler!》一文的相关描述:When my master student Emin
Boztepe challenged and defeated the Yip Man student William Cheung in Cologne in
1986, the fight began in a standing position and ended on the ground, where Emin
gained 200% control over the original Yip Man student, who was unable to free
himself after falling (See the Video "Dynamic WingTsun").
以下是亚敏·波斯铁在纽约举办的个人研讨会宣传资料中的相关内容:Emin is no stranger to controversy. In 1986 he
challenged William Cheung to a fight at one of his seminars, after Mr. Cheung
formally stated that he could easily beat any fighter from Emin's
former organization. Emin challenged Mr. Cheung in front of his students. He
knocked Mr. Cheung to the ground and punched him about a dozen times.
Mr. Cheung, in his own defense, stated that the floor was
slippery, his shoes were slippery, that Emin was wearing body armor, and dozens
of other excuses. Mr. Cheung's altercation with Emin was recorded on videotape.
Emin says, "I didn't ambush Mr. Cheung. It was done in full view, and in front
of 80 students."
以下是亚敏·波斯铁本人在日后接受采访时谈到这场偷袭时的原话。
记者问:We are
sure that you've heard this question a lot of times, but this one of the most
famous event about you: your fight with William Cheung. Even now, twenty years
after that fight, it is rumored that you attacked him by treachery and even that
he won the fight. Can you tell us something more about this neverending
story?
亚敏·波斯铁(Emin Boztepe)回答:
Sadly rumors will never
stop....but eighty people can witness what really happened. Some students of
William Cheung eventually come with me.
You see how I move, I
don't need to attack someone from behind or using any trick. The funny thing is
that during this years I always told the same version of the story, while
William Cheung and his students always change the story (I attacked him from
behind, using a photo as a trick, with a knife, with fifteen people, with a
bazooka, with a tank....)!
I say this once for all: I definitelybeat William Cheung up. But it's not my enemy!
It was an enemy of Leung Ting and
Kernspecht, and in that time they used me. They didn't know how good William
Cheung was and, not wanting to fight him in person, they sent me, knowing I was
so loyal (I was only 22). And even now, they don't care about students but only
about money. I know what I say, because I stayed with them for over 20 years,
even if I never was one of the toady ones who are the closest to him. I have my
dignity and I know I'm in right when I say that Kerspecht is a liar and a
profiter. Even his books are not al his idea, he simply took theories and ideas
from otherones and published them with his
name.
(请注意这最后一段,今天亚敏·波斯铁对他的咏春师父和师公也开始进行抨击了。)
[这宗发生于1986年、德国COLOGNE的打斗事件,出事经过、过程版本颇多,甚至当事人亦在不同访问中有着差别极大的说法,归纳而言,张卓庆方面表示:
1.
事件是有预谋的伏击。证据:A.一众生事人,报名参加张卓庆在该处开办的短期授课。B.预先安排同路人带同器材即场摄录。C.事发时,有超过8人阻挠其他在场人士介入或援手。D.在该等生事人中,不排除有人携械在身。
2. 张卓庆对遭到对手迅速缠倒,十馀年来有不同讲法:A.场地地板太滑。B.被穿着的布质鞋底所累。C.对手不动声息从后突袭。
3.
虽然拍有打斗过程,但张卓庆一直指出公开的片段是:A.录象带被剪接过。B.未有拍摄张卓庆于打斗后站起来,全无受伤的实况。C.没有拍摄施袭者为求脱身的慌张、道歉实况。
4.
就对手提出再公开比试一事,张卓庆的反应包括:A.由于出手者是受人摆布,故最重要的,是揪出和追究事件的幕后策划人。B.对手辈份比张卓庆低四辈,张卓庆认为对手根本无资格与其公开比试,张亦无兴趣对付或追究该等伏击小辈。

20040818 发表于 2015-2-6 22:22:52

佛山正身咏春还是要看郭富和郭伟湛的。

不知道我的感觉对不对。

1365557 发表于 2015-2-6 22:26:12

将网页拖到最下,

按 Flash-Video Download hier in voller Größe ,

可以直接下载。

gucci999 发表于 2015-2-6 22:35:36

所以不能教他们,教会他们就会反过来杀你。

ylxly 发表于 2015-2-6 22:39:29

国外人的观点吧而且一开始就这样了不到2分钟的时候   那时候就应该停止了

aarryy7 发表于 2015-2-6 22:42:58

外国人这点好,和你来真的。

出手不留情!
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